Todo lo que sabes sobre nutrición puede ser mentira. | Aitor Sánchez | TEDxMalagueta

Todo lo que sabes sobre nutrición puede ser mentira. | Aitor Sánchez | TEDxMalagueta


Translator: Adelina Bordea
Reviewer: Sebastian Betti How wrong, how wrong,
how wrong people eat. I don’t know if you’ve noticed it. We dietists and nutritionists
had to be invented — And this happened because
things started getting quite bad — in order to calm what was happening. Actually, mankind has been all the time
eating what it was at hand, right? Hunters, gatherers, then
we started farming, raising animals in order to kill and eat them. But actually, regardless of some
deficiency diseases, people was still guided by thirst, hunger, and ate whatever
it was around, and they were good. But things went wrong because
human beings started killing themselves. I don’t mean killing each other,
which we’ve always done pretty well. Now we’ve started killing ourselves. To such an extent that,
in the last 20 or 30 years most of the deaths in the world specially, in recent times,
are early and preventable deaths. That’s why I say
people is killing themselves by eating, by drinking,
by smoking, and in car accidents. It sounds shocking, but people
are killing themselves after all. What we should ask is: why do we
keep eating this way knowing that it’s killing us? That’s really what I want to
address in this talk because what we’ve been told
about what “healthy eating” is, is not truly accurate. The reason is very simple. We have several tenets in nutrition,
some believes that somehow perpetuate and explain that
we should eat in a specific way. For example, tomorrow I’ll get up
and I cook rice with vegetables and a bit of shellfish, and you say:
What is he doing? A nutritionist eating rice in the morning? But if instead of rice
boiled in a pan, is puffed rice, I put it in a mug, I pour some milk
and I put chocolate on it, it would be completely normal, isn’t it? Then, let’s say that
we’ve been taught about diet through very peculiar glasses and
we can only see a bit of the information. We see a very biased sector. The problem is that if, when we are living
our daily life, those glasses tell us what is healthy and it’s not really true. Some people think that
dietist-nutritionist’s work is to tell people what they should eat. Precisely, I try to prove that
it’s just the opposite. So I take off those glasses from people
to show that, hey, maybe you don’t have to eat as you’ve been told
and you should get out of the Matrix. And maybe, it’s just about
eating whatever you want if and when it’s healthy, isn’t it? Obviously. This is very difficult because that
apparent freedom to eat whatever we want is not so real because we
actually eat what they taught us to. We grow up in a culture, we’ve been raised
and this impregnates some invisible ideas, like those myths, like those tenets. Somehow, they’re invisible thoughts sometimes very difficult to be noticed,
they’re not always palpable and they tell us what “we have” to eat. Some time ago, it was very useful
to identify some acting ways, such as racism, sexism
or any kind of abuse or slavery, so I propose you to name
this invisible context that oppresses us and makes us eat
what is supposedly keeps us healthy and refer to it in that same way
during the whole talk. We’ll call it “dietarchy”, OK? The healthy eating model
that tells us what to eat. That means, it puts us
in a bubble and tells us “eat this or that way,” which are
a series of invisible thoughts that are there day after day. People who think
“eating healthy is expensive” or “I bet eating healthy
must take a lot of time.” Everything you drink due to
the advertising that is not controlled generally by the governments,
the bad formulation of the food we find in the supermarkets
and the main problem, the environment that surrounds us. The human being has a fixation and it is
that we love the surrounding environment. It usually eats whatever is nearby,
no matter of the information it has. That’s why you haven’t eaten fruit today.
Because in your context was none. If there were fruits
at the auditorium’s exit people would have eaten fruit. And everyone knows fruit is healthy. But eating behavior and health behavior goes much further than information.
It depends on the context. Dietarchy, among many other things,
also modulates people’s context. That’s why we drink with no consideration
when we’re at a party. That’s why we go to
a birthday party and eat cake. Maybe, without even considering
we may not feel like eating cake. Our diet doesn’t follow
logical nor scientific criteria. That’s why we’ve ended this way. Otherwise, there would be no explanation
why other countries have directly recommended their population
to eat food that is not healthy. A very easy example is: do you
really think the basis of human nutrition are cereals for breakfast
and flour bags? Probably not. Do you think it’s a good recommendation
to say “hurrah for wine” and “consume beer in moderation,
bacon in moderation, cold meat in moderation, sweets
in moderation, buns in moderation”? It could be one of the perspectives,
but is the human being so different that a country like Spain recommends
something completely different than Australia? Is the metabolism different? No, maybe they’ve decided,
through their policies not to promote unhealthy food. When someone is going to give
a public health message is a very good idea to have
few conflicts of interests with those things
they give the message about. And I mean this. Because if you’re giving
a message in the media about health or diet and it comes up that people
sponsor your congress it’s probable you’ll end up telling lies to the population like “you can drink
light sodas every day.” Or if you’re maybe working with
a pharmaceutical company or with the biscuits industry,
you’ll maybe end up saying you have to take Omega 3 supplements or maybe that kids have to
eat cookies every day and this is obviously not true. It’s scientifically false, like other
statements that are made every day and they are very, very
deep inside our culture. Everyone has heard this: “Dairy products are essential,
you have to eat bread every day, wine is good for your hearth,
beer helps to rehydrate.” These are four issues that
are objectively false. Because the scientific data tells us
that all four are objectively false. At this point, if my thesis
about the dietarchy was true someone for sure must have started to ask in a defensive way:
“What is he saying? We won’t be able to eat anything.
Why I cannot have dairy products? Why I cannot have wine?
From time to time it cannot be bad.” I didn’t say the opposite.
I’ve just read four sentences that say dairy products are essential,
we have to eat bread every day, wine is good for your heart
and beer rehydrates. The bad thing of when
a dietarchy’s idea is put in our minds is that we start accepting it despite scientific data, despite common sense or despite our own experience. Do you know anyone who lives
without needing oxygen? See? Oxygen is essential
for the human being. Dairy products are not
essential for the human being. It’s common sense.
I just needed 20 seconds and it can easily be seen,
with no major scientific study. And also, the worst of all
is that we ignore the experience. Everybody has experienced alcohol.
Or at least a lot of people. But if you repeat a hundred times
“beer hydrates” there’s people that, despite they
feel dehydrated when they drink alcohol will accept this as a true thing. “But beer hydrates.” That’s a lie. If beer hydrated, university students
would wake up quite hydrated on Sunday morning. And they don’t. They wake up with a dry mouth. (Applause) Beside installing ideas in the system,
dietarchy perpetuates and defends them. This is why we react
in such an energetic way. When a scientific disseminator,
a doctor appears in the media and tells truths like
“dairy products are not essential, Harward does not recommend eating
more than two servings of dairy a day,” it’s not justified for you to have to take
juice, cookies and milk for breakfast. People fight back and ask: “Why I cannot have
four servings of dairies? Why I cannot have milk every day? Who says I cannot have juice? Well, I’m not lying to you,
I’m telling you the truth. Maybe, you should be a bit skeptical
and ask yourself who put those false ideas in your mind. It makes no sense having cereals,
juice and milk for breakfast every day. It makes no sense,
but we’ve accepted these ideas. Perhaps we should show that skepticism
to those who installed the virus on us and not to those who want to shake us up
the foundation of our beliefs. That’s the real problem: that unscientific
thoughts have been installed on us thoughts that aren’t supported
by scientific evidences but which we’ve believed as right. Why? Because they were in the invisible things that have been part of our food culture. I’m going to show you
how it was installed one of the programs of dietarchy and how recently it’s starting
to be uninstalled with a case in point. It’s the recent case we’ve
been through with the sugar that you’ll know that 10 or 15 years ago
went completely unnoticed, there wasn’t much talk about sugar, but now it’s become
public enemy number one. Is sugar essential? Of course not.
We can go back to the oxygen test. If sugar was essential, humankind
would not have been able to survive until we discovered the
sugar cane or sugar beet. In any case, we could discuss
if beyond indispensable, was necessary, not sugar, but glucose. Glucose is a compound, a molecule
that’s in the carbohydrates. It’s one of the carbohydrates, but
it can be taken from many sources. You can take it from sugar,
bad choice, and you can take it from fruits, veggies, vegetables,
legumes, cereals, roots… When that food that you want
to install assumes that, the fact it isn’t healthy
and it’s been discovered, there’s a need to
start avoiding the topic. And there’s when the reasoning starts: “Yes, I must be unhealthy,
but the fault is yours because you aren’t choosing well. You had too much sugar today. You could have brought
a banana from home.” When the surroundings is predisposed to consume unhealthy food, it’s very hard; the “it’s your fault, you’re
not doing anything” reasoning or the “it’s others’ foods
with more calories fault like cooking oil. There’s a reflection to be made here,
and that is that we cannot evaluate a food just because it contains sugar or not
or that sugar itself is bad. Food needs to be evaluated
as a whole and, in this case, ultra-processed foods,
that often have sugar in them, have one thing in common
and it’s that they change our behavior. They’re tasty and they create us,
in some way, dependency. You cannot usually have
eating enough sweet foods. So they blame us telling us
“you’ve eaten too much cereals. I said 25 grammes,
not pouring for 25 seconds.” OK, it’s just that you’re selling it in a
format that lets people to have too much. Or that reasoning
that many time’s been said: “excess of everything is bad.” Well no, not everything. And things in the same excess
are not as damaging. We’re still waiting for someone
with diabetes type 2 because he had too many Brussels sprouts. And that’s not happening. So we play with foods
that can create a high dependency and we demand people
to consume them in moderation. That’s quite tricky. It’s like “smoke just
one cigarette and that’s it.” This is not going to happen. If, in addition, these foods
that use this argument get normalized around us,
in your institutions, in the public health,
we find them in hospitals, in the mass catering,
in our kindergartens and in the scholar menus,
people end up accepting them. Why? Because it is
completely normalized. For example, if labelling facilitates
that a food can evade, somehow, its content of sugar, it’s going to use it. That’s the cocoa powder effect, that I call brown painted sugar. Cocoa powder contains
from 78 to 80 percent of sugar. But they sell it to us as high in zinc,
high in vitamins breakfast. It’s like me telling you: “OK, your car is broken, but
I’ve bought you a pine air freshener.” It’s completely useless. Drinking cocoa powder because
it has zinc or magnesium in it is irrelevant because 78 percent
you’re taking is sugar. It’s one of the strategies that any food that wants to distract us. All this information
wouldn’t be harmful if there was none who
transmits and repeats it. perpetuating it in society. And in this sense it is
very well documented, both scientifically and journalistically, what web of influence
has the sugar industry woven in academics, in scientists,
in institutions, so that it can spread and
settle into the dietarchy. That’s why it took us so long to start
uninstalling it from our system. It’s not because now
we’ve discovered sugar is… No, we knew that from long ago.
But now the situation is so obvious the situation was so bad
there was no other choice than starting acting. And the virus of the system has started to unhook, little by little. The change is starting
and that change has been thanks to the awareness from
the last three, four years. Wrapping up, science is the best way a wonderful way to understand the world. It’s the best tool
the human being has invented to understand what surrounds us. The problem? Around the
scientific studies there are variables that don’t rely on the scientific method, there are variables that depend on
the human being and there we find the
sponsoring of the studies or the communication
of these scientific studies. I’m going to show you a fact
which I think is quite illustrative of what happens in science. This study wanted to see
the results of the studies that had been made about consumption
of soft drinks and whether or not they cause overweight and obesity. The result was the following:
if the study is sponsored by the sugar industry,
what the study says is “No, it doesn’t cause overweight.” Meanwhile, those studies that
are independent, that are public tell us instead “yes, the consumption
of sugary soft drinks is in fact linked to
overweight and obesity.” Look how serious it is that
the results of studies sometimes are so dependent on
the people that are sponsoring. That’s why dietists had to be invented. That’s why now, more than ever,
we need responsible health workers who cannot remain neutral
before all the lies they’re telling us to say
of how we have to eat when there’s no scientific data for that. We need health professions
who dare to uncover the lies that are hurting
right now our public health. Thank you. (Applause)

100 thoughts on “Todo lo que sabes sobre nutrición puede ser mentira. | Aitor Sánchez | TEDxMalagueta

  1. Como Nutricionista lo felicito x tan excelente charla… Y este es un tema políticamente incorrecto… Que pocos quieren tratar.

  2. Un Podemonger haciendo una charla sobre lo mala que es la cultura capitalista occidental. Muchas de las cosas que hacemos ahora es fruto de cientos de años de cultura y evolución.

  3. su fin era dar esa perspectiva no informarte sobre lo que debias comer.
    además, menciona que uno debe darse cuenta experimentalmente, aplicar un poco de sentido común y verificar en qué fuentes científicas creer para armarse uno mismo un plan de alimentación…

  4. Mediocre y patético. Los excesivos no refutan la nutrición básica como tal . Dicho sea de paso las protecciones Morales como la que dice este patético mediocre terminan siendo las grandes causas por las cuales el estado ocupa la economía entera y obstruye la libertad incluso la de consumo

    " La gente se mata " …. Algún argumento objetivo para intervenir en la inserción diaria de un individuo? Claro que no

    En fin patético

  5. La ciencia está bien pero los científicos sin moral ni ética son los que compran el prestigio de la profesión.

  6. Compren la mayor parte de sus alimentos en las dietéticas, o vaya a saber como les llaman en sus países. Si uno investiga un poco puede comer sano y rico siempre.

  7. Este tio pontifica las excelencias de los informes cientificos…
    Olvidando que hay informes cientificos que avalan los beneficios de consumir ciertos alimentos y otros informes cientificos que declaran perjudiciales esos mismos productos porque se manejan miles de millones en produccion industrial de dichos productos… asi que lo de la ciencia es la referencia, a que cientificos creemos? Como sabemos que cientificos estan vendidos a las industrias?
    Y lo que dice este tipo: LA FRUTA SIEMPRE ES SANA!!! Vamos hombre!!! HAY QUE ESTAR SUPER HIDRATADO DE CERVEZA Y SABE DIOS QUE MAS PARA AFIRMAR QUE LA FRUTA SIEMPRE ES SANA… lo fue hace mucho tiempo, cuando no habia la demanda de millones de toneladas que hay hoy y no se empleaba una cantidad de QUIMICA BRUTAL para que frutas cultivadas a miles de kilometros de nuestra casa sean consumidas un mes despues de haberse recolectado y que ninguna plaga le haya afectado…
    En fin que los Apostoles de la Verdad Alimenticia entre parentesis como minimo

  8. Vale. He parado el video en el momento que ha dicho "la gente comia lo de alrededor y le iba bien". En fins.

  9. Vaya publico …..Malagueñoss……rien aplauden los chistes…..pero que bàsicos…..han entendido algo?

  10. Ikaria en Grecia posee un gran número de centenarios, ningún secreto más que una buena alimentación ( dieta mediterránea) y una vida sin estrés, (incluso se toman su buen vino) . Dices que todo es bueno con moderación es un engaño pues sinceramente no creo..lo importante es llevar una buena higiene de vida y de vez en cuando darse algún capricho que no viene mal… tampoco hay que exagerar

  11. Pero bueno, todo lo que has dicho está muy bien, pero en lo mejor has terminado, no has dicho lo que tenemos que comer

  12. "A nuestra sanidad", a secas, el guiño a la pública te lo podrías haber ahorrado. De hecho es desde el gobierno que nos han bombareado con aquello de comer cereales, en mi pac aún veo la horrorosa pirámide alimenticia. Por todo lo demás, muy buena charla.

  13. Bastante aburrido! Me aburri a los 5 min, me parecia interesante por el titulo, quise seguir para darle una chance pero a los 12 min ya no soporte y tuve que cambiar de ideo.

  14. Te equivocas… Si un alimento es denunciado como malo es porque una parte de la industria está en condiciones de vender un sustituto, un sucedáneo del mismo. Por ejemplo si se demoniza el azúcar es porque hay un montón de alternativas en el mercado, a veces más dañinas que el propio azucar. Ciertamente unas industrias ganan y otras pierden, pero la industria en conjunto siempre gana… nosotros siempre perdemos.En cuanto a la ciencia está y estará siempre para servir a quien la financia, y los científicos que se opongan serán sacados del sistema. En cuanto a los profesionales sanitarios, no me hagas reír, no he visto un grupo más manipulado y seguidistas de las farmacéuticas… No me vengas con royos

  15. Es tan ciertooooo!! Me gusto la parte de prohibir la promoción de falsedades!! Todos tendríamos una vida más digna si ponemos atención a Eder detalle de la alimentación

  16. Yo creo en las conspiraciones…. pero he visto gente de 80 o 90 años que comió de todo y sin corrsfit ni veganias ni nada de esas mamarrachadaz, pues que ya vivió de más

  17. Madre mía que pedazo de charlatán.. joder antiguamente cuando no había estas conferencias .. se dedicaban a vender peines y crecepelos jajajajajaajajajjajaja

  18. Si la charla tuviera menos dogmas de izquierda seguro hubiera sido más productiva. ¿Porqué todo lo quieren arreglar con el estado?

  19. Si la charla tuviera menos dogmas de izquierda seguro hubiera sido más productiva. ¿Porqué todo lo quieren arreglar con el estado?

  20. Maitreya, el Mesías, el Cristo, se va a presentar. En el día de la declaración unas 2000 millones de personas responderán a su demanda de compartir y justicia. Share – es. org

  21. Llevo años comiendo sano, pero meses comiendo cuándo y lo que me da la gana…. y me siento mejor que nunca!

  22. La aplicación YUKA está muy bien para escanear los productos del supermercado y ver los aditivos que contienen y su nivel de toxicidad para el organismo… La alimentación moderna es mala. Hay que comer mucha fruta y productos crudos. Salud a todos.

  23. Lo mismo pasa en la medicina. La industria farmacéutica hace creer con estudios financiados por ellas que son la mejor opción, cuando estudios no financiados por estos han comprobado que métodos alternativos como la homeopatía, la acupuntura, entre otros son mucho mejores.

  24. Hace 10 años me servía en el famoso Galán dos platos de anticuchos con chicharrón, uno no me llenaba. Iba caminando y encendía mi respectivo pucho para acompañar y de paso calentar el camino a casa.

    Una noche, mis 100 kilos de peso y yo, se encontraban desparramados en el sillón de la sala viendo la caja boba cuando sentí un dolor intenso al corazón que me paralizó la mitad del cuerpo.

    Esa noche decidí desaparecer 25 kilos y dejar el cigarrillo para siempre.

    Muchas veces comer sano tiene que ver con que tan fuerte fue el mazazo que la vida te dio.

    Por otro lado, no eran tan listos los españoles ah, eso de que la cerveza hidrata, aquí nadie lo hubiera creído.

  25. Joder, me he tragado la charla entera y no tengo ni puta idea del mensaje que este buen hombre quería transmitir.

  26. La repuesta para todo el video es.
    Por qué la comida no se trata de salud se trata de deleitar nuestro paladar con lo más delicioso así sea mortal! listo gracias buenas noches 😂😂😂

  27. Eres lo máximo. Es maravillosa tu charla yo me alimento de manera trofológica y no consumo procesados pero a las personas que les he querido explicar lo perjudicial de los procesados me batean

  28. En mi país se cree que si te sientes mal una coca cola te ayuda a un bajón de azúcar 🤷🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️

  29. Hablando de que el ser humano come lo que tiene en su entorno, gracias por recordarme tomar la medicación que ayer guardé en la mochila (lo de la fruta también me ha pasado XD )

  30. Primero que nada, gracias por la divulgación de este contenido.
    No estoy de acuerdo en promocionar la intervención estatal.
    Con toda la información que tenemos a nuestra disposición (como esta charla, por ejemplo): ¿es necesario un estado aún más metido en nuestra vida? Cuando el mismo estado es el que promociona el consumo de ciertos alimentos dañinos.
    Ni los científicos, ni los empresarios son los responsables de lo que nos llevamos a nuestra boca. La alimentación es nuestra responsabilidad.
    Por cierto: Todo en exceso es malo. Esta es una verdad objetiva. Incluso el agua en exceso es mala.

  31. Soy médica, y comer carne es necesario en la dieta. Nuestro aparato dental (muy diferente del de los herbívoros) y nuestro aparato digestivo (muy diferente al de los hervíboros) demuestra que el ser humano es omnívoro y DEBE tener una alimentación variada, equilibra y poco procesada, incluyendo carne, huevos, pescado y leche.
    El principal déficit en veganos es el de cianocobalamina (vitam B12), también zinc, proteínas completas en los 16 aminoácidos esenciales, desequilibrio de la balanza hidratos de carbono/lípidos/proteínas.

  32. Tendríamos que retornar a aquellos tiempos en el que nuestros abuelos o tatarabuelos vivían comiendo lo que se conseguía localmente. Recuperar esa vida sana y esa sabiduría olvidada por la plaga televisiva.

  33. Yo como una persona que cuido mi salud, lo peor que puedes consumir es todo lo que contenga lácteos, es lo que genera enfermedades y demasiados problemas graves, hay otra cosa demasiado importante, el agua no sirve, no te ayuda para nada, antiguamente se tomaba el agua de los ríos y tenía todo los minerales que necesitábamos, ahora el agua no es así, tienes que preparar el agua para que obtenga los minerales, si la quieren les doy la receta, como dato, el agua normal solo tiene 2 minerales y tiene que tener 70 y algo, por eso tantas personas se enferman a falta de minerales y la carne es lo mejor que puedes comer para la proteína, la fruta tampoco sirve, solo es azúcar y no te va a ayudar en nada.

  34. Enhorabuena…👍🏼👍🏼 Excelente….

    Y yo recuerdo de cuando veía la tele el simplon del ex rey visitando una fábrica de galletas creo Maria, y cogía una de la cadena corredera una y le daba un pequeñín mordisco lo que tenía que hacer para tener para putas…😅 qué país esté, aunque eso y peor es lo que viene ocurriendo en el mundo desde que el mundo es mundo la ley Pareto pero en vez de un 20/80 más bien es un 10/90…. es decir el diez por ciento maneja todo el dinero del 90%., el 10% tienen el 80% del dinero que hay en el mundo. Las leyes la crean y ponen ese 10% para que el 90% lo cumplan, igual pasa con los impuestos, etc,etc….

  35. He bajado 10k y para eso he visto miles de videos sobre alimentacion saludable y experiencia de personas bajando de peso. Puedo decir que ver este video ha cerrado con broche de oro mi experiencia aprendiendo sobre los alimentos. Vale la pena hacerlo para crear un estilo de vida sano y a la larga bajar de peso. Salgamos de Matrix.

  36. Modas, todo lo que ha dicho este señor, se viene diciendo desde el siglo pasado, otra cosa es que no llegara a la gente….nada nuevo bajo el sol, solo ganas de vivir sin dar golpe…

  37. Una ponencia muy interesante, pero como alguien que estudió la carrera de nutrición, hay varios estudios (no, no financiados por multinacionales) que demuestran la alta bio-disponibilidad del calcio de los lácteos vs. la de otros productos vegetales con alto contenido de calcio (nueces, ciertas verduras), inclusive mayor que la de la leche, pero con baja bio-disponibilidad, por ende, baja absorción = no se aprovecha como debe de ser.

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